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and my aunt is a dog
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a couple months ago i learned i have a great aunt, who died in the 1970s, who has the same name as me
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    Whoa whoa whoa hold on. Explain that to me like I'm five
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      my aunt is a dog, because my grandmother on my father's side has a dog she treats like a child

      a completely different person is my great aunt on my mother's side, who died in the 1970s. she has the same name as me.
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      sorry i got something wrong, corrected it now
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      I hate your aunt because she's a dog.. im sorry...
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      But dogs are the best animals ever!
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      If you want a mindless slave that worships you, requires constant attention and is disgusting and unsanitary then you're right

      dogs are like communism. It's perfect and works in theory but in practice it's hell!!!
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      My dogs don't behave like slaves at all. We're more like best friends. Sure, they recognize me as the leader of the pack, but they're not tagging behind me at all times. They have enough space to run wherever they like. And they are not unsanitary at all. I wash them twice a month and they're always clean. If they get soaked under the rain I patiently dry their fur until they're good to come inside the house without making a mess. Of course one shouldn't have close contact with their saliva but I'm pretty sure that applies to everything out there. Having my babies is anything but hell, and I love them very much and every moment I spend with them.
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      Based take on communism also.
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      they eat feces for fun and lick everything I'm sorry i just prefer cats so much having lived with both
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      Cats lick their buttholes too. And the licking behavior is easily correctable. My babies never lick me unless I allow it, say, to feed them something. Maybe your poor experience with dogs comes from not knowing how to handle them properly (no offense). I have lived with these animals my whole life and I can confidently say that any healthy dog can be your best friend with adequate care.
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      yeah i don't like dogs either but i make exceptions for the family
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      Cats do it to clean themselves they are easily one of the cleanest animals on earth just from the fact that they groom themselves for hours everyday

      dogs will eat shit for fun (86% of dogs eat feces from other animals) that's the difference

      dogs are basically toddlers in terms of maintenance it's not desirable at all. I wouldn't call a dog my best friend as their so called loyalty stops existing when someone else feeds them. they bark and yap all the time at the mild unidentified sound and are just generally idiots they have 0 survival instinct and wouldn't survive a month without their owners. Dogs have no boundaries and are specifically bred to love and be loved by humans. That's disgusting. Some dog breeds even have physical problems from all the inbreeding they've gone through. Cats on the other end have boundaries like a normal being and will let you know when you annoy them. They are independent and unlike dogs have a survival instinct. You don't have to go on a walk with them or clean their shit and piss from the floor. They don't eat any object they can reach like dogs do (most not including Jambo). Them doing their business outside of their litter box is a very rare scenario as they are instinctually drawn to doing it in them. Dogs don't care if they piss and poop in their own living space they have to be potty trained by humans to be somewhat sanitary 😭😭😭. Dogs end up stinking like crazy if you don't bathe them regularly unlike cats who literally need 0 care because they actually properly groom themselves
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      I think it's fine as long as:
      1 you dispose of their droppings on a daily basis.
      2 you wash your hands after any contact with their mouths.
      I do both of these things and I've never had any cleanliness problems.
      Also, the reason dogs eat feces is because it's a vestigial wolf instinct to hide their scent.
      On the weak loyalty thing: That is simply not true. My eldest (whom I feed every single day) is basically in love with my father, even though he never feeds her.
      I wouldn't consider my dogs loud or disruptive in any way, honestly. I only hear them bark like twice a day in a noisy day.
      I have no idea what kind of dogs you've been around because I can assure you mine are completely functional hunters who could live off of birds for months should I stop feeding them.
      You're acting like selective breeding is inheritently bad, which it is not. It's the entire reason we have oranges, cows, chickens, modern bananas, and a long, long list of other species. Of course I am against irresponsible breeding but that's a completely different can of worms. The dogs I know definitely have boundaries and are absolutely not in your face at all times. They like their lone time occasionally, and we're all happy that way. All of the behavioral issues you are describing are completely correctable with training.
      And honestly I don't know why you have such a problem with having to care for the pets that YOU adopted. Quite frankly, it seems to me that your problem is with laziness and responsibility rather than dogs. Needing less care doesn't make anything better if it's a duty you agreed to take.
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      Crazy how you straw man what I say to argue against it

      1. Dogs eat other animals feces,
      2. Your personal experience doesn't affect my experience what ever this can't really be argued
      3. You're just basing the fact that your dog's are functional hunters out of a feeling when in reality they're probably more dependent on you than you think
      4. Don't act like you've never heard a dog that just won't shut the fuck up
      5. never said selective breeding is inherently bad but it certainly is when your so called best friend was bred to be disabled
      6. Doubt that your dogs have actual boundaries this is more about personal experience but most dogs probably have little to no boundaries
      7. Behavior that needs training to fix shows how dogs lack of instinct and are highly dependent on humans
      8. I've never adopted a dog, I've babysitted one for months. Not mine and never said I adopted one. I'm not the one who trained it

      shlawg i wasn't born yesterday I know about argumentative fallacies
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      also note that I have nothing personal against you 🙏🙏I don't hate you for having an opinion different from mine
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      1. Unless they are sharing terrain with livestock, it is very rare they'll encounter other animal feces, so that's barely even a problem.

      2. I have spent way more time with dogs, so I probably have a better concept of them. Your bad experiences can probably be traced to poor handling.

      3. You don't know that and I do. It's not based on feeling. They kill birds very frequently. I'm honestly surprised they're so good at it.

      4. Correctable behavior. And it's not common at all anyways. I would argue cats in heat are more disruptive.

      5. We agree on this point. I don't like pugs & other breeds with congenital issues because of that.

      6. Simply not true.

      7. Nope. All that requiring training means is that they are just animals who are not 100% adapted to living with humans. That is not a bad thing. And in fact, it means that they do have insticts.

      8. Either way, you agreed to babysitting the dog.

      Fallacy fallacy.
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      1. unless you also have cats or simply go on a walk, what are you on about?
      2. blaming me for no valid reason but yeah some dogs are probably loyal to their owners as they were bred for this but that wasn't my experience sadly
      3. This is entirely dependent on the specific dog and breed but a lot of dog breeds especially smaller ones would definitely go extinct without humans
      4. Spaying is a thing also you don't disprove my argument
      5. Now that you don't strawman me you agree ok nice...
      6.shlawg do we live in the same dimension
      7. They eat anything including shit and need to be trained to not do that like how is that good survival instinct
      8. Didn't have a choice

      you did deform some of my arguments so I don't understand the fallacy fallacy thing
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      1. Dogs don't dig around cat litter. I know this. And if you're walking your dog you're gonna be watching it doesn't do that.

      2. Not blaming you. Just stating I know more about dogs.

      3. True. But that doesn't make them worse animals.

      4. Depending on the procedure, female cats become infertile but still get in heat. I see this way too much

      6. We do. Most dogs will leave you alone if you shoo them away.

      7. Wild animals will have to eat almost anything they find or they will starve. That is survival instinct. And there's a difference between chewing and eating.

      8. Nothing to say there.
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      1. you know this? shlawg im pretty sure they do
      2. shawg... "Your bad experiences can probably be traced to poor handling." is not blaming me??
      3. this is subjective
      6. definitely not my experience XD my experience was painfully the opposite of that
      7. dogs are not wild animals. they are domesticated and live in an abundance of food.. eating shit or any toxin found on the floor is detrimental to their health and this is the reason why im saying that's not survival instinct
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      1. Yes.
      2. It's not blaming you because you didn't do the poor handling, they're not your dogs.
      3. We can agree to disagree, then.
      6. Tone is very important when dealing with dogs. They must understand you're serious. I don't intend to blame you but it is possible you don't know how to talk to them.
      7. They are domesticated, but that doesn't mean they won't retain aspects from their wild counterparts. Especially since they really haven't been with us that long.
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    so it's your... great dane?