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i feel bad for clav
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    he is a very bad influence
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      yeah he chose a bad path but nobody is born like that
      part of the reasons he went with looksmaxxing from what i can tell is because he hated himself (he has called his high school self "disgusting") + he used to avoid all social interactions and spoke ~50 words a day
      what he says is bad but he can change (he's only 20) and i still feel bad for him as he obviously struggles with mental health and especially because hes in a toxic community
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      he should still be held accountable but it's true that his presence reveals bigger societal problems
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      yea
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    who is clav...